The Doctor Dialogs
Chapter 1: Dr Cheron
A bureaucrat in the role of my Primary Care Doctor


Meet George Jetson... that's not it. Meet Fred Flintstone... still not right. Got it, meet Fred Cheron. Sorry, but the cartoons are so similar... I get them confused. The Phoenix VA assigned the third cartoon to play the part of my primary care doctor. I suffered the result for five years.

A Fred Cheron news report
Phoenix VA Fred Cheron freak show
A different Fred Cheron news report

Fred, nothing like a real doctor... This page is one teeny bit of my healthcare difficulties...



Quotes below are from official documents
This page represents a small portion of the events where this person denied healthcare. The rhetoric he spewed in these quotes is mindless bureaucratic bullshit. The VA supports and promotes this behavior.



It's an exact quote if it's in quotes " "
Else it's paraphrased from a long statement
Patient: "I need immediate medical intervention."
Dr Cheron: "I feel for you. I know you are suffering. I have a limited number of openings and limited resources." Patient: "How do I get health care?"
Dr Cheron: "the VA provides excellent expeditious health care in most circumstances." Patient: "Please help. I've been battling a chest infection for two weeks now. I can't get healthcare by any means."
Dr Cheron: "Your CBC does not indicate infection." I am denying you an appointment in six weeks because of this.

Patient: "The infection is two weeks old. My last blood work was done over a month ago."
Dr Cheron: No reply. No acknowledgement of his error. No care provided. Patient: Health care delayed is health care denied.
Dr Cheron: "I am sorry your experience was less than optimal but I can only speak for myself and I give excellent care."

Patient: You give excellent rhetoric to claim you're providing healthcare. There is no healthcare. Patient: "Waiting weeks to months for an appointment is not health care"
Dr Cheron: "I am booked out about 6 weeks but if you must see me urgently you can come in as a walk-in."
Patient: If I walk-in your staff says there is no such thing as a "walk-in." They only offer to make an appointment for two months in the future.
Dr Cheron: Walk-ins? "I usually discourage this practice since I am booked throughout the day every day but we do our best to accommodate our patients."
Patient: "I waited two hours anyway because I am desperate and you keep insisting you will see me as a "walk-in." A nurse came to the lobby and quietly told me I would not be seen by a doctor, no matter how long I waited. She asked me to leave because I was talking to other upset patients. Sharing bad experiences is not allowed. The other patients left the clinic with me, to talk in the hallway." Patient: After seven years the VA has not even entered my symptoms into my medical record.
Dr Cheron: "Just because there is no diagnosis does not mean nothing has been done and no one cares."

Patient: Seven years with no diagnosis means exactly that. Nothing has been done and no one cares. Patient: "It's been seven years and you haven't even put my symptoms into my medical record."
Dr Cheron: "Sometimes patients have conditions that defy explanation."

Patient: Defy explanation? You haven't even put my symptoms in my medical record! Patient: AFTER SEVEN YEARS I NEED HELP NOW!
Dr Cheron: "Stomping your feet like a 4 year old and throwing a tantrum will not get you any closer to a diagnosis and may indeed drive the very people you are seeking help from away from you."

Patient: You're threatening to continue denying healthcare and telling me you'll blame it on my desperation caused by denial of healthcare. And by the way, being sick and desperate for healthcare is not "Stomping your feet like a 4 year old and throwing a tantrum." Patient: After seven years I'm desperate for healthcare, but you don't even have my symptoms in my medical record.
Dr Cheron: "Sometimes one needs to accept ones fate nobly and come to terms with a disability. You may not want to hear that, but that is how it is and wishing it was not that way will not resolve the issue." Patient: I keep trying with you because I'm in desperate need for healthcare and I have no other option.
Dr Cheron: "The measure of a man is not determined by his failures, but by how he negotiates that adversity."

Patient: Is it blatant desperation that causes you to attack my manhood? How about honesty? It's far easier than trying to spew believable lying rhetoric!